Epiphone and Gibson

[ZeroEverlast]

Epiphones are better value. With Gibsons, you're effectively paying more than double the price, for seemingly only slightly better tone.

[El Wiseguy]

Epiphones are better value. With Gibsons, you're effectively paying more than double the price, for seemingly only slightly better tone.

I will agree that the Epiphone is great for the price. They're not expensive and they're very good sounding guitars... but you can't get that certain sound from them that you can from the Gibson. Depending on the guitar, Gibson is a very very good guitar company.

But this is also why I said the Heritage. The Heritage company is basically all the people that hand made the Gibson guitars in the beginning but then when Gibson moved to another facility in the North almost all the Handcrafters stayed behind with the Building in Kalamazoo. They now make Heritages. They're amazing guitars. I had one for a long time but I needed the money so I sold it.

I've played many Gibsons and many Epiphones and I've been thoroughly impressed with Epiphones. But, I can't say they're as good as Gibson. Gibson just sounds too good when you get the good ones.

[ZeroEverlast]

Gibsons are too.... I can't think of the right adjective to describe it.

Whenever I'm holding a Gibson, it feels like I've got someone's firstborn child slung around my shoulder. I get worried about picking too hard, detuning the guitar, leaving fingerprints all over the finish or what-have-you.

The prestige associated with Gibson guitars make them to constricting to use, in my opinion. Also, the lack of a whammy bar makes me prefer Fenders.

Gibsons do have amazing playability and sustain though.


By the by, perhaps this should be split into another thread?

[El Wiseguy]

Agreed. *Split*

Personally, I've played expensive guitars my whole life. I've played 10,000 guitars with carbon fiber necks and some real expensive les paul guitars from Gibson. As much as I agree with you about the value making you feel less inclined to really shred on the thing... I've gotten used to it.

But, at the same time... it is nice to have a guitar you don't have to worry about and that sounds nice. Everytime I do recommend a guitar to someone on a budget, I send them to Scheckter and Epiphone. Sometimes Ibanez, depending on the situation. :)

[ZeroEverlast]

Oh, so I'm thread-starter, eh?

Might seem foolish to you, but I've always tried to avoid creating threads whenever I could. They're the only posts you can't delete. :)

Either way, not important.


You're quite lucky, Wisey. Nearly all of my guitar/bass-playing friends and I have had to slave away at our first minimum-wage jobs to purchase our first decent guitars. Not exactly pleasant at first, but taking your wad of cash to the store and finally finding the perfect instrument is the best feeling in the world. (Freshly withdrawn from the ATM machine, of course; you feel less empowered walking in with a debit card.)

Carbon fiber necks...? Geez, I've never even heard of those before, but they don't exactly sound like they'd have the greatest resonance or tonality. Up here, carbon fiber is what hockey sticks are made out of. :p

I rarely, rarely play guitars costing more than 1000$. Even in the store. I mean, how stupid would I feel if I dropped it or dented it and had to buy it? Only my rich and spoiled friends can afford those. They're nice, but I mean, in the end, it all boils down to the player, not the instrument itself.

I find Ibanez guitars costing less that 800$ play like absolute crap. I find even the most budget-priced of Squiers would feel less awkward in my hands.

[El Wiseguy]

EW. Squiers are shiite.

Yes, I am lucky for being able to play those guitars. I too don't have the cash on hand to get these guitars. But, I do know a lot of people and I am very grateful to have a dad that plays and has always had possesion of top notch guitars.

The Carbon Fiber neck was niiiiiiice. That guitar was for metal. Well, 2 of them.

These are the two guitars:

The carbon fiber actually help sustain the tone.

http://www.vigierguitars.com/gcatalog/GFCVM6S.HTM

http://www.vigierguitars.com/gcatalog/GFCVP6.HTM

Seriously, check them out. :D

The guitar does have a lot to do with the sound no matter how good you are... you really are only as good as your equipment. You could be awesome but your guitar could sound like utter shiite. In that case, it would suck.

[Narkumi]

go for Gibson! :D

[karri]

i choose both because i don't care what typethe are i just play them

[rising]

Epiphone

[El Wiseguy]

Epiphone

lol my my, what an informative post. So full of life, energy, and substance. Oh, and the contribution to the converstion was top-notch.

[Narkumi]

lol my my, what an informative post. So full of life, energy, and substance. Oh, and the contribution to the converstion was top-notch.

lol, i would add something to that, but my post was only 2 words longer..
umm... atleast mine was a full sentence! :thumbs:

[-HK Assassin-]

I like my Epiphone Dot. It's an amazing guitar. And in reply to Zero Everlast about whammy bars, some Gibson's have them too and you can always have one customly added.

[Narkumi]

I used to bash Epiphones like crazy. I've always kinda put them in relation as in:

Fenders > Squires

Gibson > Epiphone

I've seen the Beatles and Green Day using Epiphones on live performances. They sound great.

So... why not buy an Epiphone? o_O

[Neil]

I have a cherry wine Gibson Les Paul with gold pickups. It's shecksy. :)

[El Wiseguy]

Epiphones are great guitars. Squires on the other hand, are not. :P

[Siziol]

I'll let you electrics have your fun and won't butt in.

But when it comes to Acoustic (seeing as how neither seem, or advertise, to be making classical) guitars. Both are lacking.

Compared to something like a Michael Greenfield (among many others), the cookie cutter acoustics these guys make are dirt.

[El Wiseguy]

I was definitely speaking in terms of Electric... I've not tried any good Epiphones that are Acoustics.

[Siziol]

Gibson has a blues model which I played about a month ago. That was fairly nice for some 12b-blues. Along with their other small bodies which are at best moderately average.

But going through Epiphones I could not get a sound that fits my expectations. It is hard to describe. But the sound was best stated as "plain".

[-HK Assassin-]

I'll let you electrics have your fun and won't butt in.

But when it comes to Acoustic (seeing as how neither seem, or advertise, to be making classical) guitars. Both are lacking.

Compared to something like a Michael Greenfield (among many others), the cookie cutter acoustics these guys make are dirt.

O they make classical acoustics, believe me.

[Siziol]

O they make classical acoustics, believe me.

But not classical. The parenthesis was a mark to specifically not making Classical Guitars.

[El Wiseguy]

My just got a 2000 dollar Taylor. After playing that, I don't know if I like any other acoustic... even my own. lol

[Narkumi]

My just got a 2000 dollar Taylor. After playing that, I don't know if I like any other acoustic... even my own. lol

OMG, i've played a Taylor before!!

I would totally love to have a Taylor. The one I played was like a hollowbody electric... but somehow it sounds so wonderful even when unplugged (and is actually pretty loud, like a fullbody acoustic... i have no idea how that works...o_O magic, lol

But yeah, they run a high bill to pay :P